This rule seems very unfair....

When you offer a draw and your opponent runs out of time without accepting it it is considered draw by 'mutual agreement.' But the opponent needs to accept that offer, and they didn't. So they simply ran out of time and because of the offer it was automatically considered a draw. This happened to a friend of mine and I found it unfair. Here is the game I am talking about, my friend was white.

On move three, black was obviously stalling, and so white offered a draw. Now black didn't accept it, but continued to let their own clock run out and waste time. So they should lose the game. But since the draw was offered, even when black ran out of time it resulted in a draw.

@SD_2709 said in #1:
> On move three, black was obviously stalling, and so white offered a draw. Now black didn't accept it...

What if Black accepted it? Also, why would White offer it?

@Toadofsky said in #2:
> What if Black accepted it? Also, why would White offer it?
Well while this case is not the best, this could be used. e.g. U are playing ub against 1900 and then u propose draw in the last sec. Game ends in draw. Doesn't seem very fair to me...

@Toadofsky said in #2:
> What if Black accepted it? Also, why would White offer it?

There's literally no way to withdraw the draw offer, after you've offered it. I think that's the problem he's trying to highlight.
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@Toadofsky said in #2:
> What if Black accepted it? Also, why would White offer it?
Because I was with my friend when he was playing and I literally saw the opponent's clock run out and it saying 'Draw offer accepted.' The opponent was also offline when the game ended so no way he accepted it. The clock did run out and it was still draw.

It would be nice to be able to at least withdraw the offer. So if someone is stalling, you can just withdraw. If someone is stalling, they deserve the loss. This way if you offer a draw they can waste your time and let their clock run out and still get a draw without really having to accept the draw. The only way to draw by mutual agreement should be if the opponent accepts it, not timeout or anything else.

@SD_2709 said in #1:
> When you offer a draw and your opponent runs out of time without accepting it it is considered draw by 'mutual agreement.' But the opponent needs to accept that offer, and they didn't. So they simply ran out of time and because of the offer it was automatically considered a draw. This happened to a friend of mine and I found it unfair. Here is the game I am talking about, my friend was white.
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> On move three, black was obviously stalling, and so white offered a draw. Now black didn't accept it, but continued to let their own clock run out and waste time. So they should lose the game. But since the draw was offered, even when black ran out of time it resulted in a draw.

couldn't you just remove the draw offer?

@Mike14Gr said in #6:
> couldn't you just remove the draw offer?
How?

@SD_2709 said in #7:
> How?
I think a long time ago I offered draw, and my opponent was thinking for a long time and I saw I was actually winning and pressed the draw button again or the cross but idk if it has been updated

@Mike14Gr said in #8:
> I think a long time ago I offered draw, and my opponent was thinking for a long time and I saw I was actually winning and pressed the draw button again or the cross but idk if it has been updated
I honestly didn't know this was a feature, or if it still exists. As far as I know there is no way to withdraw draw offer.

OTB you can't back out of a draw offer either.